State of State Bank of India @ Rs 225 ~ Shareholders Perspective

State of State Bank of India @ Rs 225 ~ Shareholders Perspective

Sensex is arguably reckoned to be the Barometer of our Economy & State Bank of India & Larsen & Toubro have been arguably reckoned to be the best India Proxy Plays in our growing Economy

Received a Forward from an Overseas NRI Friend enquiring if it was true that :

  • Rs 5 lakhs if invested in 2000 in a Fixed Deposit of State Bank of India would have been ¬†currently worth Rs 26 lakhs while
  • Rs 5 lakhs if invested in 2000 in Shares of State Bank of India would be currently worth a whopping Rs 5.74 crs !

ūüėą Someone’s quite excitedly promoting ¬†Investment in State Bank of India ¬†& advocating Equity over Fixed Deposits over a long period….cannot blame the ‘someone’ for the excitement but deliberate exaggeration to prove the point !?

Anyway,gives me another opportunity to showcase the Magic & Power of Compounding with which I normally commence my Training Sessions

So FD ya Share?

Let’s take Investment in the Fixed Deposit first :

Here’s the Interest Rate Scenario in India form 2000 to date 2016


The average Interest Rate in the 16 years this Millennium is under 7% with Top High of 14.5% hitting in August 2000 & a low of 4.25% being recorded in April 2009

Assuming even that in July 2000 if one locked in the high rate of @ 14% in a 10 year deposit ,Rs 5 lakhs would have grown at a 14% CAGR to Rs 18.54 lakhs in 2010 & then at 8% CAGR grown to Rs 29.42 lakhs in the eight years till date July 2016….a straight CAGR would be 11.75% for 2000-2016 period….so the FD part of the Forward could be accepted when it states Rs ¬†5 lakhs invested in a FD of SBI in 2000 would have grown to Rs 26 lakhs in 2016….this gives a CAGR of 11%

Now let’s Look at Equity Returns from State Bank of India :

The Forward excitedly proclaims that Rs 5 lakhs invested in the Shares of State Bank of India in 2000 would have grown to Rs 5.74 crs in 2016…..This would mean 11380% absolute returns and a CAGR of near 35%….Not Incredibly Unbelievable but certainly requires Verification

State Bank of India was at Rs 225 in July 2000 & is also Rs 225 today in July 13,2016,sixteen years hence….However the Face Value was Rs 10 in 2000 ¬†& now the Face Value is Rs 1

Thus Rs 5 lakhs invested in 2000 would have grown to Rs 50 lakhs now & not Rs 5.74 crs !….Original Investment of Rs 5 lakhs in 2000 would have been 2222 shares @ Rs 225(FV Rs 10) ¬†which on 10:1 Split to FV Rs 1 in November 2014 would have been 22222 shares which at current price of Rs 225 would be worth Rs 50 lakhs.The Absolute Returns would have been 900% while CAGR would be @ 15.5% in this 2000 to 2016 period read more

A Dose of Rakesh Jhunjhunwala

Rakesh Jhunjhunwala on Future of Equity Market

Methinks every Indian Equity Investor needs a dose of Rakesh Jhunjhunwala (RJ) every few years! ~ any sooner it could be an Overdose !¬† ūüėÜ ~ just kidding !

I like the guy ! ~ right since I interacted with him when I invited him around 15 years ago at the turn of this century for interacting in an evening  Q & A session with my packed class of @ 90 participants in my Equity Portfolio Structuring and Stock Analysis Workshop at the BSE Training Institute as I thought he would add practical value & he did

“Boss ! I’m a¬†Sadak Chaap¬†! ” ¬†he had told us then as also how he had reconstructed his equity portfolio to concentrate only in a few stocks after the 2000 ICE debacle…so in a sense most of his Wealth has grown only in this Millennium in the past 15 years ~ and to his credit in Selections that were not really Blue Chip or Core

Yesterday had gone for an ¬†IMC interactive meet in Mumbai to check out if RJ has sobered & matured in his ‘manner of speak’ over the years ~ I rarely watch Stock Channels ~ don’t even have a TV in office~ ¬†so was not really conversant with how & what he delivered in his appearances though knew of his initiating big stakes in companies

I am delighted to blog he has not changed ! ~ shot straight from the hip & mouth again as he always does ” I’m a¬†satodia(translated to mean speculator)¬†¬†& investor & not an economist” ~ his investment portfolio has spread into the Alternatives of ¬†Bollywood Movie Production too with Kareena & Arjun starrer ‘Ki & Ka’ being his latest co production~ is into horse racing too and owns a few horses ~ passions perhaps where return on investments need not be measured in monies !?

Many perceive him as¬†Dehati¬†or Crude Dude for his rustic loud boorish way of speech~ but don’t let it fool you ! & he does not make any pretenses ~ he’s a CA by training & wears a fairly sharp mind

Money Talks & Crowd Laps it up all !~ many vigorously & ‘knowledgeably’ nodding in agreement

These RJ’s views & responses to questions posed should interest you :

On The Future of Equity Markets ~ Reiterates this is only the Trailer & we are going to witness a Mother of all Bull Runs.India is a thriving young Democracy with US $ 600 b in Savings every year.Equity Markets receive just US $ 50 b from this.This has to improve and it will ~ anyone ,any  doubt!?   

On Returns from Equity  ~ Ironically while his riches have been through multibagger 1000% + equity gains in concentrated high weightage stocks like Titan & Crisil he asserts that one should be happy with 18% CAGR gains and if it goes to 24% one should be really happy read more

Sensex disappoints in FY 16 as many of the 30 constituents lose big value

FY 16 has been a mixed year for Stocks with Markets on a downward drift  with  Sensex closing 9.4% lower  at 25341

Sensex disappoints in FY 16 as many of the 30 constituents lose big value 

Interesting & Heartening to it’s Shareholders ,Reliance has been the biggest constituent gainer at @ 27% while at the other end BHEL has lost half it’s value at 51% ! ¬†~ another 11 companies have lost between @ 19% to 30 % values

Domestic Concerns revolved around  second consecutive failure of monsoon in 2015 &  slow pace of Reforms  & Corporate Earnings Lethargy with growth in single digits despite boasts of GDP Growth of over 7% and lower Inflation and Oil Price falling 40%

Global Concerns revolved around ¬†China’s Growth slowing down considerably & It’s Stock Markets losing a lot of it’s froth in panic falls, continuing recession in Europe & expectations of the US Fed raising rate

Consequently FPI Inflows which were a record US $ 17 b in FY 2015, reversed to outflows of US 2.1 b in FY 16.These outflows would have been higher if last month March 2016  had not seen a reversal back to FPI Inflows of US $ 3.2 b 

In the first three months of this Calendar Year 2016 , January &  February 2016 witnessed significant outflows of US 1.67 b & US $0.8 b respectively that dropped Sensex to 23000 levels.On the back of many countries like Japan,Switzerland and Sweden embarking on Negative Interest Rate Policy,the  US Fed send out dovish signals and has delayed Rate hikes.This saw FPI Equity Inflows smartly cross US $ 3 b in  March 2016  getting them back into the Green in 2016 & revive the Sensex back up @ 10% to 25500 levels or else FY 16 would have seen a Sensex drop of nearly 5000 points & @ 18%,double than what it actually did in the end

Here are some FY 16 Trend observations :

  • Sensex closed down 9.4%.It was down @ 18 % just around a month ago but smartly pulled back on record US $ 3b FPI Inflows in March 2016
  • Of the 30 Sensex Constituents,amusingly after a seven year itch perhaps ūüôā ¬†Reliance is the biggest gainer ¬†at 27% taking it’s Market Cap to US $ 49 b,next only to top TCS ¬†which ¬†despite a flat year retains Top Market Cap of US $ 73b !
  • Six Scrips,including all weather favourite TCS (Market Cap US $ 73b) have remained flat
  • Of the Four Banks,only HDFC Bank stays in the Green just about,the rest have lost lot of value from one third to one fifth
  • India Growth Proxy Larsen & Toubro has lost 26% Value
  • Four Pharma Majors have also dropped significantly from 13% to 28%
  • ¬†Three IT Bellweathers saw Wipro down 10%,Infy up 10% and TCS ¬†in between remaining flat
  • Of the Five Auto Majors,the two 2-wheelers are both in the green,two ,Maruti & M & M are flat while Tata Motors has lost 30% value
  • ¬†Three eternal FMCG Favorites,ITC,Asian Paints & HUL have held up
  • ¬† ¬†After a Steel Sector Battering past few years,Tata Steel is now catching it’s breath
  • All ¬†Five ¬†Non Bank PSUs continue to flounder ~ BHEL has lost half it’s Value follwed by ONGC down 30% ,Coal India down 19%,NTPC down 13% & Gail down 8%
  • Housing Finance Leader HDFC too has taken a beating of @ 16%
  • Controversial Adani Group’s Adani Ports is down 20%
  • Telecom Leader Bharti Airtel is down 11% despite getting a 4G breather as Reliance’s Jio ,expected to be a sector disruptive force,launch continues to be delayed but should be fully operative by FY 17 year end
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    IDBI Bank @ Rs 68 ~ Will Govt really let go?

    IDBI Bank @ Rs 68 ~ Will Govt really let go?

    In 1995 ¬†IDBI the DFI came out with an IPO at Rs 130.I had given it the notorious sobriquet ‘Instant Death By Investment !’ as the Pricing was way to High.The IPO was bailed out by UTI at the time in a quid quo pro really as then IDBI subscribed to Unit 64 at the high purchase price which was a scam in itself as it was 60% higher than the actual Unit 64 NAV which hovered around par of Rs 10 !

    Then in 2004 ¬†IDBI the DFI merged with IDBI Bank ¬†and in 2010 I had recommended it at Rs 130 in 2010 for several reasons.It did climb past Rs 200 the same year but then disappointed and started it’s downward slide as NPA Demons begin surfacing big time.

    Last Month in the second week of February these NPA Demons caused the Share Price to drop below Rs 50

    On February 29,2016 our  FM made this  specific budget phraseology for IDBI :

    ‚ÄúThe process of transformation of IDBI Bank has already started. Government will take it forward and also consider the option of reducing its stake to below 50 per cent‚Ä̬†

    It was a no brainer for the Share Price to begin rising the same day from Rs 58 levels to cross Rs 60

    It’s now moved up @ Rs 68

    Here’s the Share Price Trend of IDBI Bank ¬†from 2004 to 2016 (in Rs)







































































    The Book Value of IDBI Bank is over Rs 110 giving the relative Valuation of ¬†0.6….that’s of course one accepts current audited GPA levels of Rs 19615 crs ,that’s 8.94% of Advances and with a 62.92 % of Provision Coverage

    Government owns 80.16% of IDBI Bank and if it is open to bring this down below 50% as proclaimed in the Budget by our FM then it begs the question ~ Will they just bring it down but yet retain Management Control or will IDBI really be up for Privatisation and therefore up for Sale ! ?

    Quickly the IDBI Employees have voiced their displeasure and threatened to go on strike in the crucial last week of this month of March 2016 which closes out FY 16

    Why would the IDBI Employees resist Privatisation or Government diluting it’s stake below 50!?

    Seriously ask yourself this ! I reflected and immediately came up two big reasons in my view :

    1. Insecurity of Jobs ~ This is understandable as Employees have huge job security under the Government ~ Bank can Hire but not Fire ~ at best Government can try VRS as they’ve been doing over the years in PSU Banks ~ Connect this with how bloated Government Enterprises really are on workforce be it the Railways or Coal India
    2. ¬†Accountability & Transparency in Operations ~ This would open a Pandora’s Box in the Bank for all the NPAs & who really is responsible in the Bank to have advanced Loans that have turned Bad.Of the over Rs 2 lakh crores advances ,the Bank reportedly has an exposure of ¬†Rs 7000 crs ¬†to the JaiPrakash Group,Rs 15000 crs to the Essar Group and @ Rs 925 crs to Kingfisher Airlines.In fact the ED is investigating Vijay Mallya & his Kingfisher Airlines for Siphoning off ¬†@ Rs 300 crs Funds from the Rs 900+ crs IDBI Loan¬† ¬† ¬†¬†

    So will our Government be influenced by the IDBI Employees opposition & not go ahead with it’s plans to sell it’s stake in IDBI Bank to bring it below 50% ?…the Budget already shows FY 17 Disinvestment Target of Rs 36000 crs + Precise Strategic Disinvestment of Rs 20500 crs.This would ¬†include ¬†IDBI Bank Stake Sale planned read more

    Tumbling Top 10 PSU Banks ~ Govt & MOF & RBI & Banks all to Blame

    Last Few Years I have consciously stayed away from PSU Banks,Oil  & Steel & Power Companies

    Now you’ll know why !

    There has been serious wealth destruction for those who had invested in them

    So it was always with some degree of amusement I observed many analysts and fund managers and stock market experts recommend these over the years and justify their call even when it was obvious these companies were bleeding profusely

    This Post is about  PSU Banks

    Who is to Blame for this Wealth Destruction ?

    I squarely lay the Collective Blame on the various Central & State Governments that ruled ¬†& rule,Ministry of Finance Bureaucrats & ¬†Finance Ministers,the Board of Directors of all these Banks led by the Chairman & MDs & even the RBI Boards led by the various Governors & their deputies in these last few years….they preach Corporate Governance but do not practice it….how else will vested interests be served

    They have deliberately let this come to past throwing caution to the winds when Lending and then not providing adequately and in time for the NPAs many of which were not even identified as such ….and their delay in declaring many defaulters as wilful…Supreme Court has been seized of this danger and have directed RBI to provide to it within six weeks ¬†in a sealed cover the list of all defaulters over Rs 500 crs.One Bank Chairman in the analyst meet for Q 3 FY 16 results recently ¬†refused to identify the Big Defaulter for which the Provision was made ! ¬†¬†

    If it was not for the aggressive stand taken by the present Governor,Mr Raghuram Rajan and the Asset Quality Review in the second half of 2015,the Banks would have continued under providing for NPAs & even not identifying them in their entirety…the role of statutory auditors too comes under scrutiny here

    The result has been a damaging Q 3 FY 16 for the PSU Banks as they have been forced by RBI to provide properly based on the AQR conducted

    It is in this context I am astonished at the recent lament by none other than Mr Deepak Parekh who says that if the Banks have to undergo one more quarter of provisioning for NPAs like Q 3 it would tantamount to an Anesthesia¬† overdose & Banks would become comatose !…Come On Mr Parekh !

    RBI has asked the Banks to clean up by March 2017

    My worry is that NPA Levels may increase on better & proper identification & classification and there will be more pain for these Banks.This would mean higher Provisions for the next few quarters read more

    IDFC Bank makes an Exchange Debut today listing at @ Rs 70 ~ What is the Worth ?

    IDFC Bank makes an Exchange Debut on BSE today listing at @ Rs 70 & after a High of Rs 73.45 and a Low of Rs 67 closing too at @ Rs 70 with volumes of 4.3 million shares

    What’s it Worth ?

    Well the Market Cap is @ Rs 23876 crs at Rs 70.40 Share Price

    Just to recall ~ IDFC received the RBI in-principle approval on April 9,2014 to set up a Bank in the Private Sector

    It began the process to do so with the Scheme of Demerger being approved by the Madras High Court on June 25,2015 with every IDFc Shareholder getting 1 share in IDFC Bank for every share held in IDFC

    IDFC Bank was incorporated on October 21,2014

    It got listed today at @ Rs 70 with an Equity Capital of  Rs 3391.53 crs (FV Rs 10) and  Reserves of Rs 5289.60 crs ( largely Share Premium of Rs 5232.56 crs)

    The Networth thus on listing is Rs 8681.13 crs computing to a Book Value of Rs 25.60 which at listing Price of @ Rs 70 gives a PBV of 2.73

    IDFC Bank began on October 1,2015 with a loan book of Rs 46381 crs

    The Capital Structure evolved   as below



    No of Shares Issued

    Issue Price

    (Rs )

    Nature of Issue

    Cumulative Share Capital

    (Rs Crs)

    Cumulative Share Premium

    (Rs Crs)

    October 21,2014





    July 7,2015



    Rights to IDFC Financial Holding Co Ltd



    September 30,2015






    October 9,2015


    Scheme of Demerger


    Top 10 Shareholders as on October 27, 2015



    No of Shares

    Stake %


    IDFC Financial Holding Company Limited and its nominees




    President Of India




     Sipadan Investments (Mauritius) Limited




    National Westminster Bank PLC as Depositary of First State Asia Pacific Leaders Fund a sub-fund of First State Investments ICVC




    Actis Hawk Limited




    Orbis Sicav – Asia Ex-Japan Equity Fund




    CLSA global markets pte. Ltd.




    First State Investments (Hong Kong) Limited A/C First State Asian Equity Plus Fund




    Orbis Global Equity Fund Ltd




    10 JP Morgan Sicav Investment Company (Mauritius) Limited





    The Non Executive Chairman is Mr Anil Baijal while the MD & CEO is Dr Rajiv Lall who holds 1998984 shares in the Bank.Another IDFC Director Mr Vikram Limaye holds 2043728 shares Here’s how the Peer Groups look on Market Cap & Price to Book

    The Big Four Private Banks

    HDFC Bank

    ICICI Bank

    Kotak Mahindra Bank

    Axis Bank

    Market Cap (Rs Crs)





    Share Price (Rs) November 6,2015 Closing





    FY 15 Book Value










    The Smaller Four Private Banks

    IndusInd Bank

    Yes Bank

    IDFC Bank

    IDBI Bank

    Market Cap (Rs Crs)





    Share Price (Rs) November 6,2015 Closing





    FY 15 Book Value










    IDBI Bank is plagued with high Gross & Net NPAs that have risen further to 6.92% and 3.16 % respectively on September 30,2015…explains why it’s available below Book IDFC Bank begins with a relatively cleaner slate but is certainly not a bargain at PBV of 2.75,similar to closest Peer on the Market Cap upside,Yes Bank However ¬†as Top 10 Shareholders as above own @ 72% stake it does augur well on the bourses as floating stock will be restricted Will be interesting to see if IDFC Bank overtakes Yes Bank in Market Cap which is 33% ahead as of date and plays catch up with IndusInd PBV Valuations Now that would be really interesting ! Downside too is open if NPAs begin rearing some head on the loan book position of Rs 46381 crs taken over on October 1,2015 from IDFC Will keep a watch on IDFC Bank Cheers !